started as an adolescent in Iran at five. I was born in Iran. We moved to Los Angeles eventually as refugees. We were political refugees when we moved here and solidly poor here. In Iran, we were well to do. Here, we were poor and we managed somehow to buy a house in an up-and-coming neighborhood an Enclave of Los Angeles called Pacific Palisades, which at the time was more hippie than up-and-coming. And my folks managed to buy a house that was an absolute disaster of a house in those days. And pretty soon around us, I saw huge houses going up. I saw great wealth coming in. It was the Reaganomics era trickle-down economics wall street wealth. Hollywood was at an all-time high. All this money was coming in but I was still the poor son of a dry cleaner. The kids growing up around me their folks had Mercedes Benzes. They would go out to restaurants.

Do not work in a vacuum. What I mean by that is that there are people out there in the world, who have done what you want to do and you can find these people and incentivize them to work with you. Incentivize them to help you, to coach you, to train you, to get what they want. I think your podcast is about fitness yeah? So if you want to become fit, very interesting. So I train Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I'm a student beginner um but I've been training for some years now and my philosophy with martial arts and I've done martial arts for a lot of years is if you want to learn, you find somebody who's at a much higher level and is where you want to be and once you learn how that person got where they are, ask them to mentor you. Ask them to coach you and get at that level with them. Train at their level.

That’s cash flow positive real estate, great. More wealth is built in this country by real estate than than pretty much anything else right. You should have one one area of your business that’s you know in the stock market and then another area that pays you to work you know. If you’re still in the business of selling your hours which I know a lot of us have gotten out of but if you’re doing that and that’s the money that you’re bringing in for your rent, your family whatever that’s respectable. But you have those pillars.

When you see people you can only help them past a certain level where they’re at and if you pick people up too fast and too high, their little legs will be dangling and they will hate you for it and that happens a lot of the time when people help other people out and that person hasn’t asked for it. That person is at a different level and they they can’t comprehend that world that they’ve just been thrown into. So a lot of the times that’s that’s the reason why that happens.

So the first thing I’m gonna tell you and this is a little contradictory to what some people say. The first thing that I’ll tell you is that somebody told me once that if you do what you love you’ll never work a day in your life. That doesn’t mean you won’t wake up and go to a job. It just means that because you love what you do, it doesn’t feel like work and so the first key is picking something that you don’t hate.

Usually, you have a set path in life and unless that path is disrupted you will have a tendency to go for wherever inertia will take you. Most kids these days I mean look at 15-year-olds now right they don’t I mean they don’t know how to wipe their own butts. Much less like going out there and starting a company right. Do you have any kids? “No”. Okay, so most kids like I’ve got nephews who I just look at and I’m like oh my god like they’re you know I’ve got one nephew who’s in his teens and I really would like him to be more proactive like he is far from starting a business.

Three things that you need – knowledge courage and action. The knowledge you can buy, you can borrow, you can steal, you can rent, right? Maybe better not to steal it but you can rent it. You can hire people and that’s what I did. I picked up the phone. The first phone call I made was to Andrew Wilde, the great naturopath, the guy who wrote all the textbooks, who’s like now you know he’s got a TV show.