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Shaahin Cheyene, Leading Amazon & eCommerce expert discussed how to start predictable recurring revenue streams on the Amazon platform. Never one to forget his roots, Shaahin continues to champion and mentor entrepreneurs looking to enhance their revenue streams and disrupt the market.

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SPEAKERS

Shaahin Cheyene, Randy Silver

Randy Silver  00:00

This week, I have an amazing entrepreneur. I have someone who has helped generate billions of dollars in revenue in his lifetime. Let me say that one more time. Billions with a B is a book calm. To me. He has a book coming out called billion where he talks about his life story and everything is done. His name is Cheyenne, Cheyenne. He is an amazing person. Let me tell you about him. When he was super young, Mississippi young, we're talking about 15 he created an herbal ecstasy pill. This herbal ecstasy pill was a non tropic tool that sparked the 100%, legalization, smart drug movement. He was making millions, millions of dollars i 15 years old, all of us a 15. If we had that money, we'd be going to the grocery store, we're getting some ice cream, but he was out there and he was not finished. He then turned to his next idea his next invention. He was an early innovator in the vaping world, inventing the industry first vapor vaporizer as well as hundreds of other multimillion dollar products. So he obviously has entrepreneurship spirit, he has other ideas in the head and he's making them happen. He did not stop there. He then further move the staff himself as award winning on newer Amazon expert, Venter author and filmmaker. His career as a serial entrepreneur spans more than three years and once again, that being number billion dollars in revenue, his family products and Amazon consistently outpaced sales of hundreds of brands on the platform, making him a sought after expert and consultant for Fortune 500 companies. So today we're gonna go over how he was able to create the herbal ecstasy, the pill, how he's able to be a vaporizer innovator, talk about Amazon recurring revenue, I Premiership and more. With that being said, I'm so excited to have him on I know he's waiting to come in. So we want to do our Thank you audience before we bring him in. Audience locking right and die. Thank you so much again every week for listening wherever you listen on. Apple, tick tock YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, LinkedIn, all the posts that we do all the marketing, thank you so much from bottom my heart. If you like this message, please do go Rate, Subscribe, all in on all the channels so that way you stay up to date with our weekly vlog videos, our weekly podcast videos, and so much more. With that being said, laughs fam, I know you're excited to meet Cheyene. So welcome aboard. How are you doing today?

Shaahin Cheyene  02:34

Randy, thanks so much man. honored to be on such a great intro. I hope I could live up to that. I think certainly my story could, but I'm super excited to be on. So thanks for having me.

Randy Silver  02:47

My pleasure. And I think let's just dive into it. So the story 15 year old cream ecstasy, you know, a lot of people probably know the term ecstasy in two ways, either external happiness, or the rave, drug, pill, ecstasy and all that goes with it. So I would love for you to kind of talk about how you got into that at such a young age and what you did and how I was able to help people.

Shaahin Cheyene  03:07

Yeah, sure. So we came to this country as immigrants I immigrated from Iran. I came here, five years old, and I was like, This is gonna be frickin awesome. Like, this is gonna be great. And then I get here and I'm like, Oh, shit, I don't really speak the language. And a lot of people are assholes. Because this was during the Iran Contra. And I was just getting like, the shake kicked out of me. I was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, I was king of the king of the heap in Tehran. And then here, like, you know, I'm a second class citizen, third class citizen, This is nuts. And so I grew up, you know, during iran contra times. 1980s, Ronald Reagan, trickle down economics, all that stuff. And kind of we my parents managed to buy a house in a upcoming area that became one of the most affluent areas in Los Angeles wasn't when we bought in. And I remember the real estate agent calling my dad and there was like, one house that we could afford. My dad had like shitty jobs, and, you know, he was working at like, pizza places and dry cleaners and that kind of thing, just, you know, working crazy hours just trying to make ends meet when we came from Iran. And I remember that, you know, they really wanted a house after some years and so they're the broker said, Hey, you can get this house. It's the one that's within your budget, but there's a problem with it. And he said, Well, what what's the problem? And the broker said, well, there's a commune of I think their Hari Krishna is living there. And no one's been able to get them out. And my dad said, but it's so much cheaper than all the others this is the only thing we can afford. So we'll take it and you know, there everyone's looking at him like Alright, so you're gonna have like, literally a commune, like a hippie commune of like, he was like Hari Krishna there were some like Hells Angels. It was like a craziness is that they had a big like, near Olympic sized pool in the backyard. They were you Isn't it as a koi pond like it was nuts? Oh, wow. And I think like one of the guys had some relation to somebody and the city or the departments allegedly. And so it was difficult to get them evicted. And so we moved into the house with these people still living out there in the back. And I just remember, every day my mom would make tea, and she would bring it out to them, and they wouldn't bring my dad would bring them food. And they never said anything. They've just, you know, my folks were just being super kind to them. And after a couple weeks, the leader of them came in was like, Hey, you guys have been so kind everyone here has been so mean to us and demanding and, you know, threatening us and all kinds of legal stuff. What can we do for you? When does it look, you know, you guys eventually have to move on. I've got a family here, we bought this house, you know, we're not rich people, you know. So do you think you can move along? And they did. And so we moved into this neighborhood. And the neighborhood very quickly became out fluent. And I started looking around the people that were moving in. And, you know, I was, you know, this fast forward several years, I was, you know, 1314 years old, I'd never been to a restaurant and I remember the rich kid next door, you know, they paid however much money for their house, and you know, we're still sitting in this like shack, you know, being surrounded by this, like massive gentrification and build up. And I remember, you know, thinking, Wait, so what I went to his house, and he's like, okay, so dinner, here's a menu, we're going to restaurant, and I was like, What? You mean, you can order? Anything you want? Yeah, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. So I can get the hamburger, and the pizza. And the guy is gonna, I gotta see this, I got it. So that's what it was, like, I never had that kind of exposure. You know, my mom, you know, we'd be like, hey, the kids are going to McDonald's, I want to go to McDonald's. She's like, Don't worry, I make you McDonald's right here, we'll take you know, a piece of frozen meat put up between two pieces of Wonder brand, go here. It's as good as McDonald's. And we will look at and go, mom, you know, but that was, you know, we grew up poor. And you know, with that kind of mindset. And so as I got older, you know, my parents wish for me, was really the pinnacle of success for them, as most Persian Jewish families was, you have to become a doctor. So you know, they would be like, look at Mr. Gas van, they cross the street, he has Mercedes, he has big house. Why don't you be like Mr. Gas fan, they cross the street. And I remember thinking to myself, Randy, fuck, man, if like, that's the pinnacle of success, dude, I'm just gonna go surf. Like, just let me go out there. And so I'm going to go on to be I don't know how to surf, but I'm gone. Because I started to think that that guy, yes, sure. He's a doctor. But his house, he doesn't own his house, the bank owns his house, and that Mercedes that he's got parked in the driveway. Bank owns that, too, that's least and this guy leaves at 5am in the morning and comes back late. And there's nothing wrong with hard work. But he's selling his hours. And I knew early on intuitively that I didn't want to do that. So when I hit 15 years old, and ready to get into high school, I just fucking bailed I was like, You know what, I'm out. I don't know what's out there. But it can't be any worse than what's around here. And so I was basically sleeping in abandoned cars, abandoned buildings, I realized that there was all this construction going around, it was a big boom at that time in the, you know, early 90s in Los Angeles. So they would build these huge apartment complexes with hundreds of units. And I realized it would take them two years to complete some of these units. So I figured out that if you could get the code to get in, you could sneak into these apartments and crash they're at night, and wake up before anybody knows and be out of there. And that was glorious. That's how I lived, you know, I, your pastor, you're doing this. What's that? Did your parents know you're doing this? No, no, of course not. No, no, I kind of, you know, for all intensive purposes, left home and cut ties at that, because I had to do what I had to do to succeed. And, you know, I decided, Hey, man, you know, I want to have the Porsche I want to have the big houses and the fancy vacations and I want to eat I want people to go to a restaurant and order food off the menu and have somebody Bring me the hamburger and the pizza, you know, so but that was my thought I wanted to do all of that stuff. And it wasn't happening with me staying home. So at the time, I met a mentor, which I write about in my upcoming book. And he slowly started to coach me about how the world works and how business works and the secrets of influence. And at that time, I started to get involved in the electronic music scene, the rave scene, which was just exploding at that time. So Randy I started going to these raves and I realized that these parties start late at 2am, which was ideal for me because remember, I didn't have a permanent place to sleep. And if you know electronic music, there's a drone, this metronome and drone behind it. That just made it very comfortable for me to fall asleep behind the speakers. If you sleep behind the speaker, it's like a gentle massaging you to sleep. So I would go to the raves I would have fun, I would meet people, and then I crash out behind the speakers and party would go to four or five in the morning, and then I'd wake up and crawl out of there with everybody else. And it would be it would be glorious. It was absolutely fun times more power to you. I remember if I could sleep at a rave Well, 15 it was a different story. You know, 15 you can do you can do anything. So I started looking at this and going hey, you know, I gotta step my game up. I want to you know, I'm gonna you know, make my millions I got to figure out how to do it. So how is money being made? I was like, surely the promoters the people that are throwing these parties are making money? Nope. Always broke, always running away from the DJs and everyone else for not paying everybody must be the music must be the DJs that are making money. Nope. those dudes are the brokest ask dudes out there. They're just standing outside going, why isn't somebody paying us? We went we did everything we did. Why is nobody paying us. And the buildings generally speaking that raves and underground parties were thrown in, in those days were usually broken it. So you know, somebody would climb the pole, grab the electricity, somebody else would climb in through the back and unlock the doors. And that's where the party would be. But these parties were happening week after week, every weekend. Who do you think was making money from these

11:39

drug dealers? Wow, that was quick. Okay, usually takes people guesses. So I like that a little bit, I understand what you're talking about.

Shaahin Cheyene  11:48

I love it. So it was the drug dealers and I noticed that there was always the guys hanging around smiling. They would give a little cash to the promoters a little cash to the DJ, just making sure everybody was okay. And they'd be doing very well. They'd be driving nice cars and having having a really great time. So I thought to myself, that's it drugs. Now, simultaneously, the supply of MDMA methyl deoxy methamphetamine, what we know is Mali or ecstasy, had dried up fairly complex drug to synthesize. And it was mostly being made in Europe, in Amsterdam, in the UK, and in a few places around there. And when the government crashed down and stopped letting any supply in to the United States, these drug dealers were really hard up. So they started selling all kinds of stuff, hoping that people would take it instead of ecstasy. Now, that's where I was right place at the right time. Now I thought to myself, hey, maybe I should be selling drugs. And then I realized that I was a neurotic Iranian Jewish kid, and that I would be really incredibly bad at crime. I thought about crime. And I was like, dude, you know, I watch people who do crime, and the majority of them are really bad at it. And I look at him and I'm like, you search should find another job because crime is just not for you. Like, don't do crime. Sir. People do all kinds of bad stuff with crime, they write down their crimes, they, it's just a lot of people should not be in crime, and me included. So I took that and I checked it off my box. And I said, you know what crime is not for me. But what if I could find a way to create a pill that was like ecstasy, did similar stuff, had no side effects and was legal, then I'd be in the money. So I started calling around. I went to the library, I grabbed the Yellow Pages, I contacted authors, I contacted writers herbalists, I drove down to Chinatown to herbalist stores, I got people to work for me, and I didn't have any money. But I sure as hell didn't have the wherewithal to understand that I could fail. So the only way forward, for me was success. And then, one day, I had a bunch of goo filled pills that I had made in literally the kitchen of my girlfriend's house at the time. And she would sneak me in through the back because she didn't want her dad to know that I was going into the house and certainly using their kitchen of their nice house as a manufacturing plant for herbal ecstasy. And I would, you know, take the pills, and I went to my first rave. And I looked around and I saw the drug dealer who was very upset and I looked at all the grumpy people standing around because their drug supply had dried out very early that evening. And, you know, I reached down into my pants, checked my testicles, they were still there. And I walked up to the Dude, look them straight in the face. And I said, Hey, buddy, what do you think about selling this? And he said, fuck off. Who are you? Like, you know, are you a cop? What are you doing blah, blah, blah. Your narc or your narc? Are you all that stuff? And I said, No, man, look at me. Do I look like an ark that I you know, and he's like, Alright, I'll give it a shot. And after some convincing couple hours later, people were jumping up dance and pointing at me the DJs were pointing at me. Then the dude came back and he looked at me and he said, How soon can I get more? So, you know, the I was in the club, the drug dealer sold all of my pills. And then he came back and looked at me and was like, dude, like, I didn't think this was going to work. How can I get more? How soon can you get any more, and when he said that, it was all over. I knew that it was on. And from that point, it went from one drug dealer to 10 drug dealers to 100 to 1000 to 10,000 to becoming a global phenomena we were selling in Tower Records we were selling in urban outfitters GNC 711, all the big stores across the country were carrying our product. And the interesting thing is that this was a product that broke barriers, distribution barriers, because we were able to sell it in unconventional places. We were able to sell it at Larry Flynt was a big customer. He sold it in all his sex shots. We sold the New Age bookstores, but Tower Records, this product kept them afloat for a long time because they were selling our pills along with records. A lot of independent record stores were carrying our product. So this was the type of product that gained global acclaim. And we were in 32,000 stores until one day, I woke up I went into my office of Venice Beach, I'd open an office, and I realized that something big was happening that day, and I got, you know, all the news channels were there. There was news trucks parked outside, there was cameras outside and I was like, What the fuck is going on? And my secretary this back in the days when we had secretaries were talking pre internet. Told me Hey, Shaheen, you just broke a billion dollars in revenue. And everybody wants to have you on sam donaldson with nightline, Montel Williams. We've had to Newsweek covers London observer. Everybody wants you on Shane. That's so cool. I love that. Yeah. But it is cool. Except for the fact that I had no shit moment where I said, Holy fuck. How much is a billion dollars. I didn't even fucking know. I had an attorney that I hired who some Venice Beach hippie who, you know, was kind of like running around like, you know philandering all over the place. I don't think I had an account. And I didn't know how much a billion dollars was. That was my anxiety. And I was standing around being super anxious going, holy shit, they're gonna ask me on national TV how much a billion is and I don't know. Now mind you, we broke a billion dollars pre internet, pre cell phone, pre social media. Before Facebook before any of this stuff happened. Our company broke a billion dollars in a niche that we created in a market that we dominated with virtually no competition. And then people call me down and they were like, Hey, you know, it's not about that. They just want to know the MTV wants to have the lawncare kid on who's selling the pills at the raids. And so I started going about the press and I started doing media, you know, must have been on hundreds of shows and magazines and newspapers we had. were featured on the cover of details magazine with Chris Cornell of Soundgarden at the time, and there's a big photoshoot with famous photographer artist David lachapelle. That we did. That's the, you know, now the cover of my book.

Randy Silver  18:32

You're like, what? 18 at this time?

Shaahin Cheyene  18:35

I think somewhere. Yeah, so just under 20? I think I was. Yeah.

Randy Silver  18:42

And that's really cool. So tripods, you there have asked a couple questions to unpack we just talked about. I think the first question that pops in my head I know a lot of people talk about from my podcast is we've had a lot of people like you who came to America, and they saw their parents struggle, or they gonna have anything that made them have the drive to want to have financial freedom, but not in the corporate life and like entrepreneurship. So why do you think that's something about a lot of people who are foreigners to come in America have this sense of individual ability and want to succeed as entrepreneur versus a standard nine to five type of job?

Shaahin Cheyene  19:18

Because we have grit, that's the thing. If you look at Iranians, Armenians, Koreans, you know, Chinese, anybody that comes to this country, as an immigrant, you know, life is very different outside of the United States, and where I came from Iran, even though I was very young, when I left there, we would leave home as a five year old, and I'd be running with a little five year old Ganga kids, and we'd be doing all kinds of stuff. If I came home and my knees were scraped up, my mom would be like, what do you do? Go Go wash your knees and come to come to dinner. If I got into a fight that was between me and the other kid, there was no internet. You know, really, and I think it's that type of adversity, and also not being spoon fed, that allows you to build character and to build discipline, which at the end of the day builds grit. And it's that grit that leads you to have this type of discipline as you move forward in life. And to have almost this fearlessness about you. When you look at the great entrepreneurs. And in our world today, one of the things that you notice about them is that they're really fearless. Like you look at Ilan Musk, like, that dude is fucking amazing, man, that guy, you're like, holy shit. Okay, so you did pay pal, but you have a car company. And then you're like digging a hole under LA for cars to go through, but then you're building this Hyperloop. But then at the same time, you you're going to space like, he's fucking fearless. He doesn't give a shit. And it's, it's that grit. It's that life experience that led him to that point, obviously, you know, Musk immigrated from South Africa, which is, for all intensive purposes, a fairly rough place, in comparison to other places. And so it's that lack of guaranteed safety. It's that little bit of danger and uncertainty in the world that develops that core strength.

Randy Silver  21:33

Love it. And I think that's a really good segue, because, you know, every other person who has come on has said, the same thing is, you know, we just have a different mindset than say, someone's grown up here. And the more comfortable life is like we are parents came here to make a better life for the kids not for themselves, they knew that hopefully, being in America would present more opportunities in for your parents, it was, hey, go be a doctor, go be the dumbest person out there with the nine to five working all day, you can not take that route, you created something, you created the ecstasy. I want to take it to drugs for a moment. You are selling drugs that were herbal, and they weren't like true drugs, to drug dealers who are then giving the people a raise. So what was different in your drugs that made it not illegal, that the normal MDMA that people think about a rave? We made that illegal in the same vein, where people still enjoying your drugs the same less more, or just because you were able to supply it and you were able to overtake the market, even though it wasn't considered a hard, illegal drug? Does that make sense?

Shaahin Cheyene  22:39

Yeah, so first and foremost, we sell them as supplements, not drugs, and we serve them as supplements, not drugs. So we never went out there and said, Hey, this is a drug. A drug is something that's regulated by the FDA or the DEA. And it's usually made with chemicals, although there are natural drugs out there. So with that said, What I can tell you is that I learned from the research that I did, and the people that I talked to that you can combine certain herbs, and they could, for a good degree mimic some of the effects of MDMA, methyl deoxy methamphetamine. So we used a particular herb, which is now banned called the federa, which was glorious at that time. And another herb called bladder na, which is from Brazil, a tion caffeine, it's a nut or seed or a fruit or something like that. And that stuff is great as well. It's like a kit. And then when you combine the two and you mixed a bunch of other plants and ingredients in there, it created quite a nice party effect. So that was the general gist of what our Biloxi was about.

Randy Silver  23:45

Got it? And are you guys still selling it today, everywhere out there.

Shaahin Cheyene  23:50

So we have the brand and we sell products under the brand, but herbal ecstasy in its original form is no longer available. I think eventually I will relaunch it as a male performance pill or as just a general lifestyle athletic performance brand. got really the stuff that made it feel like ecstasy was mostly banned. And probably the early 2000s, late 90s.

Randy Silver  24:17

You can take a pat on the back for that one probably.

Shaahin Cheyene  24:20

I you know, it's it's interesting. I mean, I tell the story in my book, you know, and it's actually you know, it's pretty interesting. One of the big pharma companies, allegedly in the 1980s had a drug. This drug was called Prozac. And Prozac was one of the serotonin reuptake inhibitors, which basically you know, blocked the re uptake of serotonin which led a lot of people who were depressed to be happy and if you remember the baby boomers in the 1980s and early 90s, were really high up on Prozac. Prozac was a big deal. Everybody was getting a prescribed for everything. You go to your doctor, you're like, I'm a little blue today. He Give you Prozac. Well turns out that Prozac allegedly had a very well known side effect. And that side effect is that a major Ling Ling go Ding, ding, basically, dysfunction, erectile dysfunction. And that was both for men and for women, it it allegedly led to some types of sexual dysfunction. And allegedly, that same company or similar companies had an answer in the 90s when that whole thing was over. And it was a little blue pill that people are still taking today. Now they had spent billions of dollars doing clinical trials and marketing this little blue pill that was the answer to all the erectile dysfunction and all the sexual dysfunction that the baby boomers were having only one problem, Randy, there's this long haired Iranian kid with a real chip on his shoulder, and no government regulation, selling a pill that people are taking for the exact same reason that you don't need a doctor's prescription for and you can take it at any time. And it allegedly has fewer side effects. And that was a big problem. So the pharma companies allegedly lobbied the government. And that's when the problem started

Randy Silver  26:29

Drive. It might have actually segues to my last question on this subject before we can continue forward your story is, as you just said, you probably got bigger than your wildest imagination. And you had to go up against big formal corporations. As a young entrepreneur, just trying to find a way what were some of the maybe top three, four things you learn, like creating an LLC to protect yourself? How do I get my money stashed? somewhere? It's my way and someone's actually come rob me things like that, that you think it's important for entrepreneurs today to understand how they can be successful as they start to grow and build their business?

Shaahin Cheyene  27:05

That's a great question. I think that in general, it's none of those things. I think in general, I'll tell you the number one problem that most entrepreneurs have. And that's that they have the old way of thinking, most entrepreneurs think to themselves, dude, I'm going to Randy, I'm going to go out there and create a better mousetrap, and the world, it's going to beat its way to my door. And quickly they learn that in this world of social media, and all these types of things that nobody gives a fuck that you have a better mousetrap. There are lots of great products out there without any eyeballs, and they don't sell any. So what do you do, what you do is you research markets, you research distribution, and you create a product to feed into the distribution. If you give the market what it wants, what it needs, what it can't do without, and you know how to tell a better story than the next guy, you are miles ahead of somebody who's like, dude, I've built a better thing, I'm a jig, and I'm going to go Go tell people about it. Because then that person has to spend money advertising, they have to educate people, they have to build the market, they have to educate that market, they have to advertise, they have to do so much stuff. Instead, find the market, find the distribution, and just give it what it needs, tell a better story, bring extra value. And that's you know, I teach that to my students. Now I've got a mastery course called Amazon mastery, where people come in and we teach them how to start six, seven figure businesses from nothing on the Amazon platform. And we do that all the time. And that's one of the the biggest blocks that people have is Dude, I don't have a product, I really want to start an Amazon store I really want to sell on Amazon, I see all my friends making money on there, I see all your students making money on there. I just don't have a product. And the answer to that is good. It's good that you don't have a product. Now we've got somewhere to start. We can go research the market, find what the market needs and feed it that and it's so much easier when you do that. And that's what I did with herbal ecstasy. I saw what the market needed. And I felt it that and it's such a better way. And you know, at the end of the day, none of this stuff Randy is get rich quick, I know that you may have a little bit of a more useful younger audience. And in the world of social media that we live now in the world of Tick Tock and the 15 second soundbite everybody is chasing shiny things. When you Look on tik tok, you look on Instagram and all these people that are really fucking good at marketing stuff on social media have the Lamborghinis in the background, and they've got the yachts and the girls, and they're shooting Newsies with the bikini girls in the back. And then you know, they want to just sell you this course. And people will buy that course, why not because they have any belief that it's going to give them the lambos, or the girls or the yachts or any of that stuff. But they buy it because it's a lottery ticket. Whereas before, they didn't have hope. Now they do. And what I teach is, instead of that, have foundational thinking, take the time to invest in four foundations, the first foundation should be some type of real estate. Even if you don't have money to invest in real estate, you can start learning about it. Now your time in learning about cash flow, positive real estate, is an investment. That's a pillar, everybody in this country should have some investment in real estate. And there's other ways to do it. I know people who rent out properties, and then they Airbnb them, and they're making seven figures a year doing that you don't have to have money to get into the real estate game. The second pillar in the foundation that I tell people about is that you should learn about the stock market and have some money in the markets compound interest. It's brilliant. That's how Warren Buffett is one of the richest men in the world. Compound interest, he invests he holds, he understands the stock market. Fantastic. The third area, which is where we come in, is I think everybody now should have an e commerce business. Real estate is through the roof right now as we're recording this. And, you know, almost almost in August of 2021, Real Estate's through the roof at the highest that's ever been in the United States and likely worldwide. But doesn't mean that you can't start looking at these other pillars. And this is the reason for this for foundation thinking. So you have your e commerce business, which still cost the same that it costs to start an e commerce business as it did five or 10 years ago, to buy a property now is going to cost you a lot more than it did five or 10 years ago. So maybe we're going to learn about real estate, let that cool off. And in the meanwhile, focus on some of these other areas. So starting an Amazon business empowers you to start a company start a storefront, start building out a brand, which is what we teach, we don't teach arbitrage or going out there and buying cheap stuff at Costco and reselling it, we teach you how to build your own product, using what the market needs. And then coming out there and building that as real estate. And the fourth pillar is going to be your job or your career, whatever you do to feed your family to keep Pampers on your kid to make sure that you know the wife gets to go out to dinner and you know, do all the great stuff that you do or the husband goes out to dinner however you want to look at that. But having these foundations leads you to never having a bad day. Because when I wake up in the morning, I go Oh, Real Estate's really, really high. That's great, but the stock market's down. I'm not bummed about it. I've got these other pillars. And this is how you build a solid foundation that you can move forward on.

Randy Silver  33:23

That's perfect. And that that comes that term that everyone always talks about is passive income. How do you make money when you're sleeping? If you can have four pillars, as you said, stock market is down for the day, but your real estate's up and you're not going to be stressed out. You're able to over there, the pizza and the hamburger at the same time. There you go. I love that. Yeah. So I think that's a great point. Anything else around the herbal ecstasy story that you want to talk about before we move over to the vapor fiber razor?

Shaahin Cheyene  33:49

And no, I mean, you know, it was a wild ride. It was super fun for any you guys who want to hear more about it. I do have a podcast. The first chapter of the book is free and it's on Spotify, Stitcher, Google podcasts anywhere podcasts are found. It's called billion how I became king of the thrill pill cult. And if you look that up, you can hear it. It's a pretty well produced episode. We're pretty proud of it. And I'd love to hear what you guys think of it. So we'll share the link in the show notes. I'm sure Randy will do that. Yeah, and you guys can download that for free and check out the first chapter.

Randy Silver  34:26

Great. So that again, as he said, in the show notes, and then for his next part of the story is then maybe the vapors industry, which again, get in very early be a market leader. No. So please talk about how you're able to pivot to this next industry and what you're able to do to be successful there.

Shaahin Cheyene  34:44

Right after herbal ecstasy, I moved on to looking at smoking and I thought smokings interesting because when you look at that problem, humans have been burning stuff and inhaling it from the dawn of time, the cave They've showed that they've you know, they had rocks and they've made like herbs on a fire and some dude in there, you know, with hair all over his face. You know, inhaling some some stuff, right? So people have been smoking things forever tobacco goes back 1000s of years the use of that stuff, but up until the 1990s. You were still doing that? Well, I thought, hmm, do we really need to heat up plant material to 1200 degrees burning cause combustion smoke charred carbon monoxide, the three carcinogenic elements of smoke, or is there a way where we could get whatever we went out of it the cannabinoids, the nicotine, the active elements of the plants without having smoked on carbon monoxide. Turns out that if you were able to heat a plant matter, to the point where released the cannabinoids, the THC, the nicotine, the vital elements, but not heated up so much that it burns, you would have the perfect situation, because you'd be able to get all the benefits without any of the smoke and carbon monoxide. So I went off to patenting the technology that we built. And we designed and built that and I exited that company in 2006. It since went public, it was one of the first vaporizer companies ever to go public. And we were the forerunner to all the vape and vape technology that you see today.

drive it and do you think when you're first starting that jewels, vape puff daddy's just wouldn't be as big as it is today.

Shaahin Cheyene  36:37

I did. But I saw a little bit of a different way. So I never used the glycerin, or any of the base substrates that they use to aerosolized the plant matter. And I'll tell you why. our lungs are intended to have clean, fresh air coming in and resting on the alveoli, they can handle some other stuff, so they can handle some oils and some other things coming in. But the less the better. What we did is when we first invented the first vape, it was like a big ketchup bottle. And we had a big battery pack that went in it was like a you know, like a drill or something, you know, battery that went in. And then as time progressed, we audit smaller data at the size of the cigar. And then we got at the size of a small highlighter. And then finally we got it to where it was like a really small cigar. And the technology wasn't quite there at that time. But all throughout that time, what we were doing is we were heating up just organic plant matter, and taking out just a little bit of the oils to do what we wanted it to do. And I felt like that was a much better place to be it was much softer, allegedly on the lungs. And we did tests I remember with that company, we ran all kinds of tests. And we showed that there was no smoke power carbon monoxide, none of those elements. Now with vapes, the problem is that they are, people need to have them the size of a cigarette, well, if you haven't in the size of a cigarette, you can only have a small battery, if you have a small battery, then that small battery can produce a lot of heat, a lot of energy, whereas the larger units could. So you have to come up with some kind of chemical that volatilizes and aerosolized is and can carry the oils at a very low temperature. So you just heat it up a little bit, and it aerosolized, that's why it looks like smoke when you're smoking at a vape. Well, the problem is, that chemical, whatever it is, has not been tested on the human lungs. So when you see these companies creating these vapes, and you know, like, by no means am I a scientist or an expert in this field at the moment, there is something outside of us that's going into our lungs that may or may not be harmful. And what's happened is sometimes these companies have mixed stuff in there to make whatever they were mixing before less expensive. And that's caused complications. And that wasn't during my watch. It wasn't during my time, the the devices that I built almost exclusively used heat to just extract some of those active elements directly into the lungs. And I would say, that's really a good background. Today, seeing my friends. If my friends are listening, I apologize. I'm gonna call your office looking, they're addicted to their jewels, they're addicted to their vapes. It's so easy nowadays to just lay in your bed, hit it be on the couch and hit the other baseball game and just hit it and you're like this cuz you don't have to light a cigarette. So I think the effects of vape as you just said, especially these newer technologies that aren't maybe as safe. We're going to experience probably a lot of lung disease, I think heart disease 3040 years down the road. People are hitting all this stuff that we don't have scientific studies for prepared yet. And what is it going to do for me personally, like, I don't smoke nicotine, I don't vape or anything like that. But I know I'm gonna be messed up with my funds from texting, from video games, things like that, that some new technology like, I certainly feel my thumbs going. So like, just your opinion here, like, Where do you think the vaping industry is gonna go? What do you think these effects are going to be 3040 years down the road. And we're seeing generations and people getting started younger, because they have the means to do it. 

Shaahin Cheyene  40:33

So we don't know. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard to speculate. You know, I would hope that it's not as bad as we surmise. So certain scientists have come out saying that, hey, they, they think that it could be really bad. And I think it's like anything with health, I think some people will have bad effects from it. And other people may not, depending on all these different topics, but primarily people's metabolic health makes a big difference. And if you're doing it when you're younger, you know, people don't talk about this a lot, because they don't want young people going out there doing crazy stuff. But your body has a higher likelihood of regeneration when you're younger than when you're older. So you get away with a lot more when you're when you're younger, because your body is regenerating at a much more rapid speed, your hormone balance is at a place where your body can heal most anything. And the older you get, if specially if you don't take care of yourself, the more you lose those abilities. That's why when people get older, they got to watch a lot more what they eat. And you know, maybe you could have eaten something in your 20s that you now can eat in your 30s these kind of things happen, especially if you don't take care of yourself. So at the end of the day, the most important thing is really health and taking care of your body and you know, the lungs like we can go 21 days without water, we can go a month without food, air. You're talking 10 minutes tops. If you're David Blaine, in our warehouse, women often go I don't know how long Wim Hof can go. But, you know, 510 minutes maybe. So I would think you would want to take care of that. And that's not to say never to smoke or never to do that kind of stuff. But you got to do reasonably and unfortunately, in this country in particular, people can't do anything with moderation. You're like, Alright, well, weed is legal now. Like, everywhere you go, people are smoking with like, on the bus in the train. It's like, dude, do you really need to smoke in the library? Yeah, I'm just vaping you know, and it's, it's, it's everywhere. Nobody can do anything in moderation here. Which is, you know, one of the problems but if I had a choice if you want to enjoy things like cannabis and cannabinoids, and by the way, guys, I am not a doctor, I don't recommend any of this stuff. If you are thinking of taking any kind of supplement, please talk to your doctor or whatever it is. supplements or drugs, talk to your doctor, because well, we're certainly not qualified to tell you that. But what I would say is if I were to enjoy cannabis, and its benefits as a medicine or even recreationally, not that there's anything wrong with it recreationally, I would start with taking it sublingually which I think is probably the most benign way of taking it. There's a lot of great tinctures out there that are amazing, and edibles. You got to be careful, you know, as far as the dosage, but you know, that's probably the most the safest way outside of that I would recommend using a whole plant vaporizer. And there's a lot of great ones out there from what I see now. And you know, I haven't been in that world for a minute, but I wrote a book on it and the whole plant vaporizer is something that will heat up the whole plant that you don't have to take the vape and then outside of that, I would say just limit the amount that you smoke or vape because both positives and negatives. But it's interesting, though, you know, cuz smoking, have you ever heard of the smokers paradox?

Randy Silver  44:03

Yes, yes. But can you describe it from audience in case they haven't? Yeah, go ahead. I'll let you go. Just you're gonna say much.

Shaahin Cheyene  44:11

It's done on people who smoke cigars so people who smoke cigarettes have a lower life expectancy and a higher likelihood of cancer, melanoma, that kind of thing. People who most smoke cigars are some crazy percentage. I mean, I'm just you know, off the top of my head. These are unverified facts, but I think it's like 70% higher likelihood of living longer and you know, all kinds of things and they called the smokers paradox because they can't figure out why people who are smoking carcinogenic cigars are living longer, and they surmise that, you know, likely it's the fact that those people have more leisure, they're more affluent, they can take more time to relax. But other people might have you know, surmise the maybe the smoking component of it may not be as bad I don't know. But I think it's interesting because I know that I spent a lot of time with indigenous people, Aztecs, Mayans, Native Americans, you know, and forgive me for messing up whatever the correct politically correct term is for them. And I, you know, I produced films about original peoples, maybe we'll call them original people, if that's not offensive to anybody. And I know that for them. tobacco is a medicine. Cannabis was a medicine that was used for years and years and years. And they never got the same kinds of cancers that people in the West got. So there's something to be to be said about that. And they, you know, they definitely were smoking it during those times. Yeah, I'm

Randy Silver  45:44

sure they were smoking in those times in a much cleaner way than some of the stuff that's going into the product today. So thank you again, one last question on the vaping industry for you in terms of entrepreneurship. Now, what were some key lessons that you learned from your first business doing ecstasy moving to this one, you're like, Hey, I know not to make the same mistakes again, because I already played those games. I know how to move forward with my business.

Shaahin Cheyene  46:09

Yeah. Distribution first is a key one that we talked about, and we have great distribution with a pair. The other one was, if you can help it don't take investors, I was all excited about people wanting to invest in my company and putting money in my company. And then I realized that Oh, dude, I've got like 14 assholes I've got to answer to now. And that really was a difficult time for me. And then when it came time to sell the company and have a nice exit and sell to another firm, I realized that I was being held back by investors that couldn't agree. So that was another important lesson that was learned. I think those two are kind of essential ones. And the third one is I had great advice and counsel during the vapour times. Because I had all kinds of industry experts that came in and helped me with that technology. People really in you know, stoners in general, weed heads are like, fanatic. They love it, they love you know, they really like it are like a community and kind, not the most motivated of people back in the day. You know, I think now, you know, with CBD, and all this stuff that's going on, the money is there. So you get a lot more motivated people. But back then, you know, stoners weren't very motivated, but they were very kind and very generous and giving with their time and learnings as far as what we were building goes. So it really helps a lot to bring in mentors, and people who can I help you on that journey? In the Herbalife ecstasy days, I didn't have many mentors. And maybe if I did, I'd still be sitting on a bunch of those billions or millions, you know, from that time, but instead, I had to reinvent and rebuild myself. And several businesses later you learned those lessons.

Randy Silver  48:02

Got it. And you know, the key word mentor is something you've said a couple times in this podcast, and every company has come in and said, I had a mentor, it wasn't something I potentially learn in the book. It wasn't something that I saw on the podcast, there was someone that I was able to work with daily, weekly, monthly, who walk the same route as me can help give me that advice. And I really need it because that's really where I saw myself up level. So I love the fact that you use the word mentor there as well.

Shaahin Cheyene  48:27

Yeah, totally. That's, that's right. You know, I think, you know, as entrepreneurs, Randy, we have a tendency to work in a vacuum, we tend to think that our problems are our problems and where they're unique to us. And we're the only people in the world that have them. And I know now because I'm in a couple mastermind groups, and I have, you know, I've got a mastermind groups, I've got men's groups that I'm a member of, I've got all types of different groups. And where guys that I know that are where I want to be, will give me advice. And it is so helpful, because I'm like, oh, wow, that's a whole new way of thinking about this. And maybe I didn't need to work in a vacuum. And that's why, you know, like with our Amazon course, one of the interesting things is that people will and by the way, I'll give a link to any of your viewers or listeners at the end of this, where I'll give them the one hour course for free. It's like it's normally 200 bucks, but what we'll share that with them for free for your listeners, I think, you know, one of the one of the biggest benefits that people take away from our Amazon mastery course, is the fact that there is a cohort of other like minded people there, and people that will mentor you to get your business to where you want it to go. Whereas before you'd have to work in a vacuum and work out all these problems and issues and how does this work and where do I ship the inventory and how do I find the product to now you've got a base and you can focus on that one thing that's going to make your story stand out from The rest.

Randy Silver  50:01

I love that. And that's a perfect segue to the third part of this conversation, which is recurring revenue, creating that ecommerce website for yourself. And in your Avenue, it's using Amazon. So can you talk about as you already kind of, maybe it's repeating something for a little bit, the course, recurring revenue, how that would work for someone how people are able to make themselves successful in the online business, which I know is a very, very hot topic nowadays.

Shaahin Cheyene  50:28

So for you guys who don't know, Amazon in 2010, Bezos decided, Hey, I'm going to open up our platform to be not only books but other things. And not only that, I'm going to let third party sellers sell on the platforms. Most people don't know this, when they go onto Amazon to buy something, you are not necessarily buying that thing from Amazon, you may be buying it from someone like Randy or someone like me, who has opened up an Amazon store and is selling their products on the Amazon platform, Amazon takes a commission. Now one thing that Amazon did that was brilliant, is the Bezos coming from Dh hotton. Coming from one of the biggest VCs in the world said you know what's going to change this game, if we take the business of fulfilling have pick pack and shipping to the end customer out of the equation for our vendors for the people that are selling on our platform. Now. If we do that, we're going to be able to create this great user experience which Bezos is really into. He's all about having Amazon be easy, trustworthy, simple, fantastic experience, right? You click, there's a nice man in a blue shirt at your door delivering your box. It's it's effortless. If you don't like it, they take it back. No questions asked. It's spectacular. So doing that he figured we got to get that straight. But how am I going to figure that out because he knew nothing about that. So he went off allegedly, and poached one of Walmart's top logistics guys. And he said, here's an open checkbook build me the best packing shipping warehouse business in the world. money is no object, do it. And he took cheap money from wall street because he was very well connected through his former employer, dh heighten and through others on Wall Street. And he put it in and he said, Guys, we might lose money for 10 years. But on your 11 it's going to be gangbusters. And that's how it was. And so he built out this distribution. So what does that mean for you and me, it means that we no longer have to worry about packing boxes in our garage and tape and boxes and all this. We can order a product in China, focus on what we do best telling that amazing story that connects that influences people. And Amazon will take care of everything else. We ordered the product in China, it goes to the Amazon warehouse, we may never see it, we might get a couple samples sent to our house so we could check it out before we make our big order. And that's it. Amazon handles everything else. It's glorious. And then when you do like what me and my family did, you know we traveled out to Italy, we went to Greece. We sailed the Greek Isles, we were in Santorini off of Santorini in Greece or Italy. I forgot. I think it's great. I think it's great. Yeah, I think it's great. But then after that we went to Positano, which is Italy. But yeah, we're sailing off all these little beautiful seaside villages. And in the meanwhile, while we're traveling and eating, you know, beautiful grilled fish and Mediterranean food and having this amazing time, every minute, ching ching ching, we're making money, the cash register is ringing. Because Amazon has created recurring revenue streams for us. And we don't have to do much I've got VA set up all over the world. And we teach the system on how to do this in different time zones. So I've got VA is in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, South and Central America, Venezuela, where you can actually get amazing quality workers, people with MBA level degrees for under eight bucks an hour working for you running your business in a way that you never could. And all this leads to the main thing in life, which is time time is the new luxury. It's not money, it's time. It's freedom, and being able to do what you want. When you want, where you want, and with who you want. That's what we're all chasing. That's what we're all after. And there's a few different ways now to make that possible. But creating these recurring revenue streams it's not Randy getting rich quick. It's not Hey, guys, check out my Lambo check out my Ferrari check out my Porsche. I mean, I have all that shit. I just don't flaunt it, because I don't need to. It's about the hard work that it takes to build these businesses and you might fuck up. You might mess it up the first time. You might mess it up the first 10 times, but you know what you're going to get it on that 11th time. And when you do, it'll be set up, and it'll become virtually effortless. So I've got people like my wife, who started a company using our algorithms in our course. And she takes care of my kid and runs the household. But she also runs this Amazon company that's worth a few million bucks. And she works a couple hours a week. And the reason why she can do that is because of the way Amazon is set up. And because she follows our algorithms and outsources,

Randy Silver  55:35

rabbit, that was amazing the explanation. So I think what you also talk about where time is money is really interesting. Now, especially during the pandemic, everyone's working remotely, who had the nine to five corporate jobs. Now, they realize I don't want to go back to the office, I want to have that freedom to wake up a little bit later. So I can surf in the morning, I want to be able to get off work early, go surf the afternoon, and this is a really good way to do it. So do you think the corporate nine to five is gonna start to slowly die as people try to go back into the office, and they want to continue to have this freedom?

Shaahin Cheyene  56:07

You know, the trend seems to be heading in that direction. But I think when people get the opportunity, I think they will go back to the office to some degree, because for certain businesses, you do need to have that physical presence. And there's something about having your team all in one place that you just don't get in zoom, it just doesn't happen. And all kinds of crap on zoom. So maybe what it will be is a hybrid, I don't know, I'm not sure. But what I can tell you something that one of my mentors always told me is that you always need people to Captain the trains and to ride the boats. And someone's always got to drive the train. And what that means is that the people that really want to build their lifestyle of freedom, and with recurring revenue, and using these algorithms, and finding good mentorship and mentorship programs that they can be involved in to invest in their well being, but also invest in their personal development. Those people will have the opportunity to work from wherever the world they want, like I do, I bring my laptop. And you know, I took my whole family to the Grand Canyon, you know, we were doing Amazon in the car on the road trip, they're super easy to do. But for other people, you know, they'll they'll always be people selling their hours, unfortunately. But for the people who we know, and the people who we try to impact, we try to get them to a place where they're no longer selling their hours for money. That's the goal.

Randy Silver  57:42

drive it and do you have any success stories that you can share people to get them interested in? What you've been able to do? Besides for your wife? Of course.

Shaahin Cheyene  57:52

Yeah, so my wife was a perfect example. You know, she used to work for the United Nations. She worked right under Kofi anon she was Kofi anons publicist, who was the general the general whatever was the main dude, he was like the president of the United Nations. And that guy, she was working for him, she was, you know, pretty much in a public type of a life doing publicity for them. And then we had our kids, she was like, Look, I can't work in public sphere anymore. I need to, you know, go private. And so then what she did was she started this company selling these really cutesy things like recipe tins, and greeting cards, and candles. And I was like, dude, no one's gonna buy that. And of course, I was wrong. And the first year, she made an extra 75 grand in income. And she was like, wow, this is pretty cool. This is almost as much as I'm getting, you know, working for the United Nations. And then the next year, she made 150, grand, she was like, Whoa, and now she's sitting on a company that she's had a few offers to sell for a couple million bucks. And she really puts very little time into it. I've got other people who have kept their jobs. So they're still working a full time job. And they have their wife or their husband or their girlfriend doing this on the side, and they're making 510 20 $30,000 a month in extra recurring revenue. A lot of it has to do with how much you're willing to put in how much time you're willing to put in. But in general, building up these ecommerce businesses is one pillar that really shouldn't be neglected, especially nowadays.

Randy Silver  59:26

I agree. And that's really interesting, because I used to work for a Shopify company. And I will talk to all these merchants all the time on the Shopify space about how they've been able to build a recurring revenue. And they're like, yeah, this is just something I do on the side hobby to just have an extra cash. So like, if someone were to say between Shopify Amazon, Etsy, is there a difference in the platforms or is there some one that's better than the other?

Shaahin Cheyene  59:50

Yeah, so there's this guy who wrote this book called influence. His name is Professor Cal Dini. Have you ever read influenced I have not Bible looking at right, you should definitely get influenced as one of the canonical books that's like, you know, the one book that unites them all. And he's written a subsequent book to that called pre suasion. And he talks about the five elements of persuasion. Why am I telling you this? Okay, so you've got social proof reviews, authority doctor approved. likability, are you describing it in a way that I describe it to you Randy, this is the best surfboard dude, it takes wax so great. The fins are awesome. Let's go surf or you like the x five Shang my surfboard you whatever, right? scarcity, dude, there's only two of these left, grab it quick, because they're going fast. Everybody is buying these. And reciprocity. If I give you something, you're gonna want to give me something. So you have these elements of influence, I think I might have missed one consistency is the other one. Staying cut people people like to be consistent to their word. So if you're like, Hey, man, I want a red card that goes 100 miles an hour and is under $20,000. If I'm like, Here you go, here's a red car. It's it's, you know, goes 100 miles an hour, it's under $20,000. You can't then be like, Oh, yeah, I know, I want this or that most people aren't most people keep to their word. And that's consistency, one of the elements of influence. So anyway, we use those elements to tell a better story on the Amazon platform. We use images, video, copy all that stuff, but the elements of influence as applied to an Amazon listing. Now, how does that apply to Etsy? How does it apply to eBay, Walmart, all these other platforms, it's a very similar language influence doesn't change because influences between you and me, person, a person, What changes is slightly how you tell that story. So what we teach is, once you get your Amazon store up and running, you can do the same thing on all the other platforms with minor tweaks, people on Etsy, like to think that things are handmade and that it's, you know, small makers, or whatever, it's all bullshit because everything's made in China. And the majority of people who are selling shit on Etsy are making it in China and selling it as handcrafts. But you want to target your marketing towards your audience. So it's just a matter of applying certain hacks to changing it. And Shopify, which I think is one of the most promising things, is something that I think everybody's got to have in addition to your Amazon store. And what you can do is once you build up your Amazon following, you start funneling those customers over to the Shopify where you own them. Hmm.

Randy Silver  1:02:32

I love that. And you know, and that part of the conversation there because I don't want you to give away too many of your secrets, but that's really good. So if people wanted to find you and they wanted to have opportunity, as you said that have the free wing that usually people pay for or honestly so after the class, how can people do that?

Shaahin Cheyene  1:02:50

Sure. So you can go to FBA seller course. COMM that's f be a seller course.com it'll be in the link, fill out the form, just let us know that you want the free one hour course I'm happy to share that with you. You can also go to Shaheen Shan calm, that's my name. com, and that will also be in the links below. Additionally, you guys can email me I'll give away my direct email. I answer every email directly. It might take me a minute, because we get lots of inquiries, but if anybody's got any questions, my email is dark. zess@gmail.com. That's d a r k ZES s@gmail.com. And always happy to connect with people and see if Amazon and selling on Amazon is a right fit for you.

Randy Silver  1:03:41

Awesome. I was not expecting that to be your email. Yeah,

Shaahin Cheyene  1:03:45

I almost forgot. I should tell your viewers and listeners that we also have an awesome podcast. We love to share with you guys and it's absolutely free. It's called hack and Grow Rich. I think we're up to 65,000 subscribers right now. We get great guests on like Nolan Bushnell, the founder of Atari, Chris Voss, the FBI negotiator, author of never split the difference. Keith, for Razi, all kinds of amazing guests on there. So please join us on hack and Grow Rich, you can just find us on youtube or anywhere where Spotify, Stitcher, anywhere where podcasts are found great again, all that will be in the link in the bio wherever you're listening.

Randy Silver  1:04:26

Thank you so much for your time today. This has been such an open candid conversation for an hour. If someone were to take and not listen to the past 15 minutes and you wanted them to have a one minute soundbite of the key points we spoke about today, and how they can improve their lives. What would that be? Well, I

Shaahin Cheyene  1:04:44

think if you want to improve your life, you need to have financial freedom. If you want to have financial freedom, you need to create multiple streams of predictable recurring revenue with systems that never fail. And that's what we teach through Amazon mastery. So Come join us. We've got a one hour course normally 200 bucks, we'll offer it up to any of your listeners for free by clicking on one of the links below. Fantastic. Again,

Randy Silver  1:05:11

my name is Randy silver. Thank you so much for coming on today. If you found this content, you love this podcast, please go follow him go follow us channels, iron em. So I'm really excited to continue to understand how I can help make all these reoccurring revenue happen in my life so that way, I don't have to have that nine to five moving forward. If you like leap of faith, please do go subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher, wherever you're listening on the YouTube channel is go follow the videos. Thank you so much. I would love to do a sign off with you. So please repeat after me. Stay healthy. Stay healthy, stay wealthy, stay wealthy, and have a good week fans and have a good week fans do fools. Bye everybody. Have a good one.

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